
2025 Podcast Roundup
Dr. Kenneth Cooper, Founder and Chairman, Cooper Athletics
(AIR DATE: JULY 24)
Still going strong at the age of 94, Dr. Kenneth Cooper appeared on Shorts With Liz Clark to once again share his formula for healthy living and discuss his legacy as one of the most influential figures in the history of global health and fitness.
Not that he’s slowing down. The man who coined the term “aerobics” and launched a global fitness revolution with his 1968 book of that title has just released his 20th publication, Grow Healthier as You Grow Older.
He’s living proof of the effectiveness of his approach to longevity. Recently inducted in the inaugural HFA Hall of Fame Class of 2025, Cooper continues to keep an active work and travel schedule as founder and chairman of Cooper Athletics in Dallas, Texas.
In the Shorts With Liz Clark episode released on July 24, Cooper told Clark that when he first published Aerobics, written on a manual typewriter, he couldn’t have predicted its global impact.
“If you’d asked me to predict in 1968 the effect that book would have on the world, I’d have missed a thousand-fold,” Cooper said.
Cooper’s research spans more than 50 years and involves more than 2.2 million person-years of data. Patients who follow his recommendations live an average of 10 years longer than the national average—women reaching 90.4 years and men 86.5 years—while maintaining quality of life until the end.
Building on His Legacy
At 94, Cooper maintains his own fitness routine, recently transitioning from jogging (after logging 38,000 miles over 40 years) to a recumbent bicycle and exploring muscle activation technology to build new muscle mass—proving that it’s never too late to improve.
Cooper ensured the continuity of his work by transferring his research to Texas Tech University. On November 4, 2024, the Kenneth H. Cooper Institute at Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center was established at the prestigious school.
Clark stressed to podcast listeners just how ahead of his time Cooper was with his theories about exercise (sometimes at a professional and personal cost to him) and how his valuable contributions helped lay the groundwork for HFA’s mission.
Bryan Myers, CEO, [solidcore]
(AIR DATE: JUNE 8)
When Myers became CEO of [solidcore] in 2021, he brought an unconventional philosophy to the 135-studio fitness chain: If you want employees to think like owners, give them a stake in the company’s success.
Myers explained to Clark his approach to priming his staff to reach performance goals through a long-term incentive plan inspired by private equity firm KKR. [solidcore] has extended equity participation beyond senior leadership to include employees at all levels—even part-time coaches. When the company goes through transactions, as it did in 2023 and recently again, employees who have built tenure receive payouts that can reach six figures.
“We had people who have been here for four, five, six, seven years who walked away from those transactions with six-figure checks—moments in time where they can really sort of change the trajectory of their life and their family,” Myers said.
The results speak for themselves. When Myers challenged his team to grow average studio revenue from $600,000 to $1 million by 2025, employees responded with owner-level thinking and innovation. They achieved the goal in just two years instead of five.
“What has happened over the years with these long-term incentive programs is that our team has started to think like owners,” Myers explained. “They’ve started to think about ways that we can maximize the value of this business over time because they recognize that if we all do our jobs right, we all will and should benefit from it.”
Mike Goscinski, HFA Chief of Staff
(AIR DATE: JUNE 6)
To gain deeper insight into HFA advocacy strategy, HFA President and CEO Liz Clark sat down with HFA Chief of Staff Mike Goscinski. Here are some of the highlights.
● The importance of building HFA’s name recognition: Goscinski and Clark noted that advocacy rewards those who play the long game. This was reflected in the experiences of participants in the annual HFA Fly-In and Advocacy Summit. Goscinski noted that those who had attended past Fly-Ins felt that lawmakers better understood the issues they discussed and who HFA represents. “This is because of the groundwork that HFA has been laying,” Goscinski said.
● On making up for lost time: The mandate handed Clark when she was hired in 2021 was to create a strong industry presence in the Beltway after the pandemic exposed the industry as lacking the strong relationships and lobbying presence to make its case. Goscinski said: “Our mission is to protect the operators in the industry, and, unfortunately, that was missing during the pandemic when the industry was the first to close and the last to open.”
● On cutting through the clutter in DC: Lawmakers meet with a nearly endless pool of lobbyists and special interest groups, many with deep pockets. These forces made the recent talks on the reconciliation bill an especially difficult challenge. “You have everybody from the pharmaceutical companies, big oil, auto manufacturers, retailers—everyone under the sun clamoring for this one opportunity to get changes to the tax code done right now,” Goscinski said. “It’s a tall hill to climb.”
DC Lobbying: Not for Rookies
Clark and Goscinski are veterans of the Beltway. Both have been recognized as top DC lobbyists by Washington journalists (e.g., Washingtonian, The Hill, among others). These reputations—and the credibility that goes with them—take years to build.
The HFA advocacy team has now developed strong, enduring relationships with lawmakers of both parties. In addition, the association has created grassroots tools for HFA members when legislation is pending. This reflects the enormous progress HFA has made in a short time to establish the health and fitness industry as a credible and effective force in Washington, DC, and elsewhere.

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